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hangman3364



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Rocky Jordan Reply with quote

I recently read about Rocky Jordan in Dunning's On The Air It's one of those shows I've seen on the Internet but never bothered listening to.

So this past weekend, I thought I'd slip into Cairo and see what was up with the Cafe Tambourine.

All in all, not a bad series. I've enjoyed the ten hours of episodes I've listened to thus far. A lot of you may have checked this series out already but it was new to me.

The Casablanca influence cannot be understated but doesn't detract from the series as a whole...not as much as the name Rocky Jordan does. And Jack Moyle's spot on Humphrey Bogart sound is frightneing. It's almost easy to picture Bogey in the roll.

The stories vary from episode to episode, of course. Some have been really good (Desert Betrayal) to fair (Make-Up Man) The music and sound of the series lend a certain amount of realism to it...or at least verisimilitude. If not realistic, at least believable.

The stable of CBS actors used throughout is evident and only lends a similarity to Gerald Mohr's The Adventure of Philip Marlowe.

One question to those of you with good ears for voices - I have one but I'm stumped on this one - who is that playing Cairo police chief Sam? I know I know who that is but I've yet to come across an episode that lists any cast other than Jack Moyles.

If you haven't listened to Rocky Jordan, you might find a pleasant adventure series to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a show I keep meaning to listen to, but haven't yet. I hope to listen to it soon.

Shirley
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I'm very close to an 'all available' set . . . I'll get a set to Brad very soon . . .

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Victor, you are, as always. the man.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you, hangman3364.

Thanks, Victor for all you do for the OTR community. I think I have gotten much of my collection from you.

Thanks,

Shirley
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've got some Rocky Jordan in the members directory now if anyone wants to try them out. I'll be looking forward to getting the complete set from Victor.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finished the show's run and have to say this is going to go in my list of favorite new discoveries.
I was disappointed in the show's later run...not by the series itself but rather by the shift to organ music (?), though at least latter episodes did have a cast recap, which the earlier episodes lacked. Additionally, and I'm not sure why, but the sound qualiity of the later episodes is actually slightly worse than the early ones. Usually not so bad to make them unlistenable but some required more active listening than I can usually devote.

All in all, Rocky Jordan was a pleasant surprise and one I'll probably listen to repeatedly.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the RJ episodes are being posted, Brad. (Way to go Victor!)
The Man Called Jordan episodes were great...I hadn't heard any of these before. Makes me wish we had more of the serial storylines available...man, Jack Moyles sounded even more lik Bogart in the beginning.

I was thrilled to find out there were more episode available than I got the first time. I'm looking forward to spend more time in Cairo.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hangman3364 wrote:
I see the RJ episodes are being posted, Brad. (Way to go Victor!)
The Man Called Jordan episodes were great...I hadn't heard any of these before. Makes me wish we had more of the serial storylines available...man, Jack Moyles sounded even more lik Bogart in the beginning.

I was thrilled to find out there were more episode available than I got the first time. I'm looking forward to spend more time in Cairo.


Still uploading. Lots more to go. It's taking a while as the shows are high quality. Most around 28MB each. I listened to "The map of murder" the other day. It was so good I put it on our podcast.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds promising. I must have a listen.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    The RJ set is a really sweet set that took some effort to assemble

    There may be a mistake or two in there but it is pretty much right on . .

    I hope you all enjoy it as much as I do


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed "The map of murder" so much that I just put the whole bunch of them on my Ipod. These would be good to have on a long car ride.

I've got a lot of Victor's shows uploaded so far. Still half of RJ to go and then the Gunsmoke shows. My host limits the upload bandwidth so I've had to leave the ftp program running for two days straight. If they wouldn't mess with the speed it would have only taken a couple of hours instead of days. Oh well. They offer more server space than most places so it's a fair trade-off I guess.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I competely agree, Victor. This series was a complete surprise to me...I think the name made me think it was more of a juvenile show...but I would probably have to list this as one of my favorite shows over all. I would put it on par with Philip Marlowe and Nightbeat.

Thanks for all the effort, Victor and Brad. It is greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for all the hard work, guys.
Internet Archive had a lot of shows but I'm seeing a lot of episodes titles I haven't seen yet. I'm looking forward to digging into some more RJ episodes.

Does anybody know more history behind the show? I know it started as an adventure serial and became a weekly half hour but the additional audition episodes (George Raft?) raised some questions I didn't have the answers to.

Thanks again, guys. I'm really, really looking forward to this.

Daryl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stewart Wright (otrwash) wrote:
Rocky Jordan
Created by Ray Buffum (?)

ROCKY JORDAN was the title character of one of the better and more exotic radio detective series. In fact, it's one of the best detective series I have ever heard. The series had two separate incarnations. The first, A Man Named Jordan, started as a daily 15 minute show and after about six months changed to a weekly 30 minute show. It took place in Istanbul and the Cafe was described as "a small restaurant in a narrow street off Istanbul's Grand Bazaar, permeated with by the smoke of Oriental tobacco, alive with the babble of many tongues, and packed with intrigue." The second incarnation, Rocky Jordan, was a weekly 30 minute series took place in Cairo - "the gateway to the ancient East where adventure and intrigue unfold against the backdrop of antiquity."

Jordan was a hard-boiled owner of the Cafe Tambourine who spent most of his time solving mysteries that he usually became involved in by accident. During the Cairo-based run, he often encountered Captain Sam Sabaaya of the Cairo police. John Dunning in his "On The Air: The Encyclopedia of Old Time Radio" describes Jordan as "a rugged hero who each week was confronted by a crime, a mystery, a beautiful woman or a combination of the three. It was a detective show with a difference: the Oriental background was played to the hilt, giving it a sound like no other." The writers worked hard to give it authenticity - actual places and streets in Cairo were often and accurately mentioned. The music score also added to the exoticness of the series. Moyles, a veteran of radio, was much more believable in the role than Raft.

The show was one of the best examples of the so-called "amateur detective" or "unlicenced private investigator" type that were a recurring theme for radio series. It was a common way of putting a different and fresh twist on the basic private detective theme, an extremely popular genre on the radio. The main character had a stated, non-investigative occupation, but he or she always got involved with solving mysteries and crimes. Jordan passes the Chandler test: "trouble" was definitely his "real" business.

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A MAN NAMED JORDAN
(1945 - 1947, CBS West Coast)
15 minute episodes, nightly, until June 29, 1945; switching to 30 minute weekly episodes for the remainder of the run
First Broadcast: January 8, 1945
Last Broadcast: April 20, 1947
Written by Ray Buffum
Directed by Ray Buffum
Shows Currently Available: 3
Starring Jack Moyles as ROCKY JORDAN
with Dorothy Lovett as Toni Sherwood (Rocky's girlfriend)
Also starring Paul Frees and Jay Novello.
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ROCKY JORDAN
(1948-50 CBS West Coast)
First Broadcast: October 31, 1948
Last Broadcast: September 10, 1950
Shows Currently Available: 58
Writers: Larry Romero, Gomer Cool, Anderoux Bittar, Cliff Howell
Directed by Cliff Howell
Produced by Cliff Howell
Announcers: Larry Thor
Music by Richard Aurandt, Milton Charles
Starring Jack Moyles as ROCKY JORDAN
and Jay Novello as Captain Sam Sabaaya
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"Count Me Out" (November 6, 1948)
"Man in the Morgue" (November 20, 1948)
"Ace High Straight" (December 11, 1948)
"Up in Flames" (December 18, 1948)
"Everything Shipshape" (March 26, 1949)
"Portrait of Rocky" (April 2, 1949)
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ROCKY JORDAN
(1951-53, CBS)
First Broadcast: June 27, 1951
Last Broadcast: June 26, 1953
Shows Currently Available: 4
Writers: Larry Romero, Gomer Cool, and Anderoux Bittar, Cliff Howell
Directed by Cliff Howell
Produced by Cliff Howell
Announcers: Larry Thor
Music by Richard Aurandt
Starring George Raft as ROCKY JORDAN
and Jay Novello as Captain Sam Sabaaya

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Rocky Jordan Upload Reply with quote

Ok. The set of Rocky Jordan shows from Victor is done uploading. 93 shows in all. Next upload will be Gunsmoke, also donated by Victor.

Thanks again Victor Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally went to Wikipedia and checked out Jay Novello.
After I saw his face, I knew exactly who he was. (Hard to beieve he ever played Jack Packard on ILAM) Boy, he doesn't look like my mental picture of Sam Sabaaya. I picuture Sam to be a large, portly man...or am I just seeing Sallah in Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Oh, well, loving this show. This may have to go down as one of my all time favorite shows.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Sam Sabaaya. He's one of the coolest cops in all of OTR. And he's very specifically a muslim, which makes him a very signular character in the genre.

What I like best though, is the relationship between Sam and Jordan - unlike so many PI/cop relationships, it's never a case of "PI is so clever, cop is so stupid" that many have, or even "cop is out to get PI, just 'cuz". They have a very complex relationship of mutual respect and both are smart tough guys, and yet, Sam would arrest Jordan if he felt it was justified...

Yeah, this is one of my faves, too. Sad that a couple of the scripts were either recycled for, or recycled from (I never looked it up) Jeff Regan.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum Julie!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for noticing!
I'll try and keep up this level of know-it-all
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